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ChrisW
19 May, 2021
You didn't have to love my like you did, but you did, yes you did, and I paid you
Still thinking about Gun'n'Roses as what's wrong with the world today. Well, not the only thing, it's just easier to blame Axl Rose and get on with our lives.
Right now I'm looking up the most important part of the break-up, the 15 demos Slash gave to Axl who didn't want them, so Slash recorded his first solo album and several months later, Axl reportedly wanted to do something with a couple demos.
On December 14, 2008, Axl described the situation:
"I didn’t walk till several months after having 3-4-hour phone conversations nearly every day with Slash, trying to reach a compromise. I was specifically told no lyrics, no melodies, no changes to anything and to sing what I was told or fuck off."
This makes no sense in several ways. 1) He could have spent 3-4 hours nearly every day recording the lyrics already written and it wouldn't have taken several months to finish. Assuming Axl is telling the truth (which I don't) having finished work would make a better case to change the lyrics. He could have recorded his own lyrics during those 3-4 hour sessions every day. Hell, he could do it right now with the demos, put them on Youtube, and the world would go "WOW, A NEW GUNS'N'ROSES ALBUM!!!"
2) Lead vocalist Eric Dover is co-credited as song-writer on ten of the fourteen songs on
It's Five O'Clock Somewhere
and is not credited as playing any instruments. What did he contribute if he didn't do lyrics?
3) Given how cooperative Slash has been in every other musical encounter, it seems unlikely that he would have talked like this one time. Why would he even indicate "no melodies"? Axl was specifically credited for all "melodies" in
Chinese Democracy
and he's the one who went all into who gets credit and payment for what in songwriting, when has Slash ever showed the slightest interest in this? Again, Axl could have dealt with this by producing work and he's the one who wasn't participating.
4) Duff was dealing with problems like nearly dying from liver problems, he really wasn't contributing much to the band at the time and it seems likely he was just going along with Axl. What kind of criticism is "Axl thought it was Southern rock - not Guns N’ Roses material. I backed Axl." "Estranged," "My World" and "Since I Don't Have You"
ARE
Guns'n'Roses material?
5) Slash described Axl's reaction much closer to the actual album's release, "all he said was 'I don't feel like playing this kind of music.'" That's much more believable and follows Slash's typical policy of not forcing people to do something they didn't want to do. Axl didn't want to do it so Slash did it without him, fast, easy and cheaply. Making music without dealing with Axl turned out to be a positive thing. Didn't have to waste 3-4 hours every day listening to him not make music. Nothing suggests that Axl couldn't have written a keyboard part, put it into the song and sang his own lyrics, nothing except Axl anyway.
After several months of refusing to do any work, after Slash went ahead and did his solo thing, after finding out that his employee had dared to claim the right to do something Axl didn't have full control and ownership of, after another thirteen years had passed, Axl got around to claiming that he was willing to do some work but he was the victim in the scenario.
The release of
Chinese Democracy
is still fifteen months closer to today than it is to the release of
It's Five O'Clock Somewhere
but it won't be by the end of 2021.
When I get the chance, I want to look up Axl's specific comments about how compromises and not getting what he want were part of
Appetite
and
UYI
so we can find out how much he opposes the music he charges lots of money to sing on stage for the last thirty years instead of all the music he made the way he wanted.
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