Cult of cults

As the Epstein list comes out, it's amazing that people weren't immediately putting out a list of names.  You think they'd be posting one-by-one 'I found this guy!' or any other mention.  The release isn't an actual list, it's long testimonies from whoever was involved, so it does involve going through page-by-page, but still...  Of course the release is highly edited so any number of names will be missing, so make of that what you will.

The reason I'm paying attention to this is because I've been working out a theory that, for lack of a better term, I call a 'cult of cults.'  Years ago, I was reading about scientology and L. Ron Hubbard, and it struck me that this pseudo-religion made no effort to actually attract people.  Nobody's knocking on your door to try to convert you, they aren't showing up at protests and current events with signs and t-shirts of the 'word.'

Hubbard wanted to be successful in Hollywood and he was well-associated with the big names of the day.  That's what stuck out for me, that he was going after the rich and famous almost exclusively.  This obviously worked very well for him and you can see the influence it's had, both on his successor scientologists as well as anyone else who wants to try the same thing.

Keep in mind, celebrities already have their own cults underway.  You don't become a movie star or a successful musician without a lot of anonymous people working on your behalf, and they get paid for that.  They know the media and they have many other anonymous contacts to work with all down the line.  There's also the company they work for, which may be run by the celebrity, it may be a side-business for some tax or legal reason, it may be the big corporation that decided to make this celebrity a star, or any number of other possibilities.

So there's a lot of people involved just to get these businesses moving.  Many will fail but others can learn from the experience and strive onward.  This is where things like scientology would be relevant, trying to establish a 'higher goal' for everyone to work towards.  The celebrities also have access to drugs and delusion, as well as the gay movement.  For instance, a lot of celebrities knew Charles Manson back in the day, and those are just the ones who openly admitted it.

At a lower level, Jeff Jones was a popular cult leader in San Francisco, where he was supported by people like Diane Feinstein and Willie Brown, the politician who brought Kamala Harris to the world.  Nancy Pelosi always seems to be absent from the list of Jones supporters and she was certainly an up-and-comer in San Francisco at the time.  I've always suspected she just didn't want her name on the list.  But you can see these examples of different cults working together in groups of groups.

Another example would be David Geffen.  His official origins have always looked suspicious, just from how random it was.  He wanted to be in Hollywood and worked as a mail clerk, then formed a talent agency and became successful, then he forms a record company which has all these huge successes, then he goes to work for a movie studio, Warner Bros.  Then he forms another record company with more huge successes - even signing John Lennon just a couple months before he died - and sells that.  Then he forms another movie studio with Steven Spielberg.  It always looks like he's the front man for some organization behind him, connected to all these other companies and celebrities, which has quite a bit of success over decades.

Geffen is one of the reasons I came up with the 'cult of cults' theory.  I stopped being interested in pop music a long time ago and have always cited the popularity of Nirvana as the main reason, or at least the first step.  I couldn't stand "Smells Like Teen Spirit" which MTV kept playing relentlessly, following it with other grunge rock songs.  But meanwhile, MTV was also playing lots of Guns'n'Roses videos to promote their follow-up album(s) from their massive debut, and G'n'R was losing popularity because of its expensive videos and the cult mentality Axl Rose carried along.

Nirvana's debut album was released exactly one week after Guns'n'Roses' "Use Your Illusion" albums and both were on Geffen Records.  As a company, they need to prepare for possible failure, but there's no way this was just a case of putting something out, deciding how to market it and seeing if it sells.  It's not even that unique, the mafia has been known to be part of the comic book industry for a long time as a way to transport goods across state lines and find legal ways to invest their income streams.

So this would be how celebrities and their cohorts can form their own cults which continue to work together to advance their masters.  They develop their own pseudo-religions and can spend decades manipulating their minions.  The highest ranking might be invited to Epstein Island, the lower levels have to form their own entertainment.  Human traffickers can bring them a lot of toys to do whatever they want, people no one will miss, and they can create new generations without being noticed.

Of the famous names I mentioned, most of them have been to Epstein's Island, or would have gone if they'd been invited, and that's just a handful of people.  There's been a lot more associated with these cults, and they would all have the opportunity to form their own cults.  There's no limit to the degradation they're after, so they'd find all sorts of ways to be involved.  They would conflict with each other but there are the leaders of the 'cult of cults' who could keep them in line.

The reason I'm writing this is an odd coincidence that might not have been an accident.  In 2017, a G'n'R message board had some discussion about the band collapsing after the "Illusion" albums, including anecdotes from other musicians of the day.  This discussion ended after a year or so and has just been restarted a week ago, as the Epstein list is being talked about in media.

One of these anecdotes came from a member of a band that opened for G'n'R and an interview he gave in the early 90s, describing an experience dealing with the band, specifically Axl.  His description is poorly written - he's not a good speaker and doesn't go into much detail - and the anecdote itself doesn't contain anything particularly interesting.  The little that is described is creepy but believable for high-level rock stars of the time involving videotaping a couple women having sex, one of whom might not have been dead but seemed that way.

These were Axl's people and obviously operating under his rules.  Normal rock star behavior wouldn't have appeared so creepy to other rock stars, which was why this anecdote was being told.  For whatever reason, I've paid a lot of attention to G'n'R over the years and this just struck me as cult behavior, which Axl has flourished in all his life.  This is what led me to thinking of Geffen and all the other celebrities involved, at least the ones we know about, as well as the upcoming release of the Epstein list and who might be named.

I really think this is what we're facing as World War III continues.  The elites know who is on which list and they have their own conflict with each other, even as they rule the rest of us.  They certainly work with China, Russia, Iran, etc. although there's no way to know who's in charge or what their plans are.  This isn't just a cult trying to control everybody, it's a massive number of individual cults working together, each in their own individual manner.

As elites, they also have access to the latest technological advances, which normal people wouldn't have a clue about, and they can see the experiments already performed.  This is another thing they've been able to do for decades, early-80s tv shows had characters using the internet basically as we know it today.  The people in these technological advances were either part of the cults or were used by those who were, as did the big companies they worked for.

About the only chance for hope I see is if these different cults turn against each other, eventually tearing down their system the way they've been tearing down ours.  Keeping secrets and revealing other people's is a large part of the thrill in this sort of behavior.  It's just human nature and along with the mafia and the gay movement, these people would be quite experienced with that.  Then there's the government and industrial leaders whose jobs involve secrets of all kinds and distinguishing between who can or can't learn these things.  Then there's the pseudo-religious delusions each of them are willing to impose on their minions for any number of reasons.

We are all headed for disaster caused by the cult of cults, but they are part of it too and some of them are even realizing that now.  There's no way to know who is involved in any of these or how or why, so that's why we need organization at the ground level to be willing to fight back.  As bad as things are for us now, they'll get worse, and there's no time to keep these secrets any longer.